Borg area stations for sale

[Clay JD Walker]

I can't wait to hear the jingle package!!!

[Hoosier Daddy]

W253BB

Legendary calls! Who, within an earshot of Huntington, hasn't heard of W253BB?

"Smokin' our stick ...

on the roof of the Coal Exchange Building ...

A Moon ... of The Planet ...

W-2-5-3-B-B

... The Duplication Station".

[Cameron]

W253BB

Legendary calls! Who, within an earshot of Huntington, hasn't heard of W253BB?

That's what the carrier wiggles in morse-code. That's not how you ID it if the parent station changes calls giggle-boy.

[Big Media]

giggle-boy.

[Force Commander]

Look's like this is the FM Cameron is talking about going up on a Kindred tower:

Granted:
WV BMPFT-20080805ABI W253BB 144652 FIFTH AVENUE BROADCASTING COMPANY, INC. Mod of CP E 98.5 MHZ HUNTINGTON, WV

(WRVC translator going into Huntington, note the "B" in the call!)

Can't help but wonder if this is really being built to park WRVC-AM on. You have to currently have an FM station listed as the parent, then get an STA approved for the AM to receive a waiver to broadcast on it. The FCC has been quietly been passing these for a while now.

[Cameron]

Look's like this is the FM Cameron is talking about going up on a Kindred tower:

Granted:
WV BMPFT-20080805ABI W253BB 144652 FIFTH AVENUE BROADCASTING COMPANY, INC. Mod of CP E 98.5 MHZ HUNTINGTON, WV

(WRVC translator going into Huntington, note the "B" in the call!)

Can't help but wonder if this is really being built to park WRVC-AM on. You have to currently have an FM station listed as the parent, then get an STA approved for the AM to receive a waiver to broadcast on it. The FCC has been quietly been passing these for a while now.

Our company has been aware of the AM STA for FM translators for some time. Short answer, no. W253BB was built only to enhance 92.7's signal in an area within its 60dbu contour. (You know, what a translator was meant for before the God-satellators found a loophole). It has been a project since the "great translator invasion of 2003" and will be on the air within a week.

[Hoosier Daddy]

Why not just move 92.7 closer to Huntington?

[Cameron]

I.F. restriction with 103.3. 92.7 can't move 1 foot from it's current location. That engineering was done in the 90's.

(Moon liner produced BTW).

This just in....Borg stations still for sale.

[Big Media]

This just in....Borg stations still for sale.

Nope. Robby Vanhoose just bought them.

htip://ww4.fcc.gov/~updates/permits/granted/borgstationsinhuntington.htmz/

[Hoosier Daddy]

This just in....Borg stations still for sale.

Nope. Robby Vanhoose just bought them.

htip://ww4.fcc.gov/~updates/permits/granted/borgstationsinhuntington.htmz/

Shit!!! I about had a stroke when I read that.

Nice job ...

[Force Commander]

This just in....Borg stations still for sale.

Nope. Robby Vanhoose just bought them.

htip://ww4.fcc.gov/~updates/permits/granted/borgstationsinhuntington.htmz/

Man did I crack up when I read that! Thanks for a great real LOL!

[Hoosier Daddy]

I.F. restriction with 103.3. 92.7 can't move 1 foot from it's current location. That engineering was done in the 90's.

Weren't youse guys looking at some kind of on-channel translator for 92.7 (like 101.5 has) at one time?

Or am I mistaken?

[Dr. Whiplash]

Weren't youse guys looking at some kind of on-channel translator for 92.7 (like 101.5 has) at one time?

I've wondered for years why more stations haven't done that. I vaguely recall maybe it was a brief window or something?

[Tom Taggart]

Boosters never fell under the translator window. However, engineering a booster is much more difficult than a translator.

They can work very well IF the terrain is cooperative, allowing the interference zones to be placed in uninhabited areas. E.G., our booster on 93.9 in New Martinsville. Downtown Huntington would not appear to provide that kind of friendly terrain for a 92.7 booster.

[Cameron]

Boosters never fell under the translator window. However, engineering a booster is much more difficult than a translator.

They can work very well IF the terrain is cooperative, allowing the interference zones to be placed in uninhabited areas. E.G., our booster on 93.9 in New Martinsville. Downtown Huntington would not appear to provide that kind of friendly terrain for a 92.7 booster.

The booster license was in our back-pocket if the translator fell through. The booster was less desirable because of the cost of engineering, the interference zones, and the limitation to 150 watts less than the 98.5 translator. 98.5 has great building-penetration in Huntington and is covering exactly what the engineering indicated.

This just in...the Borg stations are STILL for sale.

[Force Commander]

That's what the carrier wiggles in morse-code. That's not how you ID it if the parent station changes calls giggle-boy.

I am missing your point on this one. How else are you allowed to Legal ID a translator? The rules that I have seen say:

Station Identification. FM translator stations are
required to broadcast station identification announcements.
This can be done in one of two ways. First, the translator
station can arrange with the primary station whose signal is
rebroadcast to identify the translator station by call sign and
location.
If the translator station utilizes this method of station
identification, there must be three announcements each
day: one between 7 a.m. and 9 a.m., one between 12:55
p.m. and 1:05 p.m., and one between 4 p.m. and 6 p.m.
FM translator stations that do not begin broadcasting before
9 a.m. must make their first announcement at the beginning
of their broadcast day.
Alternatively, the FM translator may transmit its call sign in
International Morse Code at least once each hour. See 47
C.F.R. Sections 74.1283 and 73.1201.

http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form350/350.pdf

By your writing however I see you know something I certainly don't. What other ways can you ID a translator? I have a translator that I would love not to have to use the calls for the Legal ID.

[Cameron]

That's what the carrier wiggles in morse-code. That's not how you ID it if the parent station changes calls giggle-boy.

I am missing your point on this one. How else are you allowed to Legal ID a translator? The rules that I have seen say:

Station Identification. FM translator stations are
required to broadcast station identification announcements.
This can be done in one of two ways. First, the translator
station can arrange with the primary station whose signal is
rebroadcast to identify the translator station by call sign and
location.
If the translator station utilizes this method of station
identification, there must be three announcements each
day: one between 7 a.m. and 9 a.m., one between 12:55
p.m. and 1:05 p.m., and one between 4 p.m. and 6 p.m.
FM translator stations that do not begin broadcasting before
9 a.m. must make their first announcement at the beginning
of their broadcast day.
Alternatively, the FM translator may transmit its call sign in
International Morse Code at least once each hour. See 47
C.F.R. Sections 74.1283 and 73.1201.

http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form350/350.pdf

By your writing however I see you know something I certainly don't. What other ways can you ID a translator? I have a translator that I would love not to have to use the calls for the Legal ID.

Our translator has an FSK chip with the call letters that shifts the carrier frequency in morse code every hour. It meets FCC requirements and it is unnoticable to the listener.

Transmission
of the call sign can be accomplished
by:
(i) Frequency shifting key; the carrier
shift shall not be less than 5 kHz
nor greater than 25 kHz.
(ii) Amplitude modulation of the FM
carrier of at least 30 percent modulation.
The audio frequency tone use
shall not be within 200 hertz of the
Emergency Broadcast System Attention
signal alerting frequencies

[genlock]

TV (analog) translators ID in the same way.
Just keep it below 20 wpm.

[Force Commander]

Our translator has an FSK chip with the call letters that shifts the carrier frequency in morse code every hour. It meets FCC requirements and it is unnoticable to the listener.

Transmission
of the call sign can be accomplished
by:
(i) Frequency shifting key; the carrier
shift shall not be less than 5 kHz
nor greater than 25 kHz.
(ii) Amplitude modulation of the FM
carrier of at least 30 percent modulation.
The audio frequency tone use
shall not be within 200 hertz of the
Emergency Broadcast System Attention
signal alerting frequencies

I am going to check this out for sure! When I read the earlier quoted rules I took the morse code at face value and didn't look at it any further. Thanks for the info Cameron.

[Cameron]

Here's the whole section:

§ 74.1283 Station identification.
(a) The call sign of an FM broadcast
translator station will consist of the
initial letter K or W followed by the
channel number assigned to the translator
and two letters. The use of the
initial letter will generally conform to
the pattern used in the broadcast service.
The two letter combinations following
the channel number will be assigned
in order and requests for the assignment
of particular combinations of
letters will not be considered.
(b) The call sign of an FM booster
station will consist of the call sign of
the primary station followed by the
letters ‘‘FM’’ and the number of the
booster station being authorized, e.g.,
WFCCFM–1.
(c) A translator station authorized
under this subpart shall be identified
by one of the following methods.
(1) By arranging for the primary station
whose station is being rebroadcast
to identify the translator station by
call sign and location. Three such identifications
shall be made during each
day: once between 7 a.m. and 9 a.m.,
once between 12:55 p.m. and 1:05 p.m.
and once between 4 p.m. and 6 p.m. Stations
which do not begin their broadcast
before 9 a.m. shall make their first
identification at the beginning of their
broadcast days. The licensee of an FM
translator whose station identification
is made by the primary station must
arrange for the primary station licensee
to keep in its file, and to make
available to FCC personnel, the translator’s
call letters and location, giving
the name, address and telephone number
of the licensee or his service representative
to be contacted in the
event of malfunction of the translator.
It shall be the responsibility of the
translator licensee to furnish current
information to the primary station licensee
for this purpose.
(2) By transmitting the call sign in
International Morse Code at least once
each hour. Transmitters of FM broadcast
translator stations of more than 1
watt transmitter output power must be
equipped with an automatic keying device
that will transmit the call sign at
least once each hour, unless there is in
effect a firm agreement with the translator’s
primary station as provided in
§ 74.1283(c)(1) of this section. Transmission
of the call sign can be accomplished
by:
(i) Frequency shifting key; the carrier
shift shall not be less than 5 kHz
nor greater than 25 kHz.
(ii) Amplitude modulation of the FM
carrier of at least 30 percent modulation.
The audio frequency tone use
shall not be within 200 hertz of the
Emergency Broadcast System Attention
signal alerting frequencies.
(d) FM broadcast booster stations
shall be identified by their primary
stations, by the broadcasting of the
primary station’s call signs and location,
in accordance with the provisions
of § 73.1201 of this chapter.
(e) The Commission may, in its discretion,
specify other methods of identification.

P.S. - The Borg stations are STILL for sale